Does anyone know of this incantation works?

[Nazheek]

Hast Thou Willed The Repetition Of Thy Words?;
In That; Of Thy "Apple"?...

Could you be more concise with your question?

You've come to the wrong place if your looking for concise answers my man.

Yes, you are correct. Especially with Packajos. I just felt as a user whos been around for a while, albeit inactive, that people would be more willing to answer.

Seriously though, Packajos, how much time do you have? I'm not even trying to be a jerk, its just amazing. Or... Amazein

[Redbeck]

While we seem to be getting off the topic of ‘An Incantation That Works’...., welcome back Nazheek and a finely thought provoking topic by the way, and also welcome to the Oracle Forum to oldnoname12, a new poster I think.

Anyway, as this is both a place of learning and enlightenment as well as one of exploration on the subject of development stages of the English language and who uses what….. >>>

The version of English which you refer to as written by Packajos000 (I doubt it spoken) is strictly known as Early Modern English or Early New English (on occasion abbreviated to EModE, EMnE or ENE). It is the evolutionary stage of the English language used from the start of the Tudor period up to the English Interregnum and Restoration and most certainly employed by Shakespeare (a small example of the original written work Shakespeare is shown below). Chronologically speaking: in use from when the transition to Middle English from Early Modern English took place in the late 15th century until the transition to Modern English from Early Modern English during the mid- to late 17th century, roughly 150 years.

Undoubtedly the version of English used in written form to produce the King James Bible in 1611 and as spoken most probably by the Pilgrim Fathers who set sail on the Mayflower from England to start a small colony in what is now Cape Cod, Massachusetts in North America in 1620.

However the language was visibly changing by 1670, a good example of this shift is the pamphlet beneath (almost like a newspaper article) about the infamous ‘Essex Serpent’ published in 1669 citing believable sightings of this mythical 9 foot (2.7 metre) snake which had terrorised the English county's cattle and a story which had been told for centuries.

William Shakespeare's Sonnet 132 in the 1609 Quarto



Essex Serpent Pamphlet 1669 (NOTE: the letter S formation as written in the word Essex which more closely resembles the letter F in our minds eye)

[Nazheek]

Thank you Redbeck. I had always heard it called Shakespearian. I had felt the subject of the thread wasn't too far off as there are themes of Magick in the main site.

Anyways, thanks for the welcome, and, can you explain how I can translate Packajos' posts to a comprehensible message?

[Redbeck]

Good Evening/Guten Abend Nazheek,

I too have heard the term Shakespearean English, probably because William, originally from Warwickshire, lived between 1564 and 1616 and therefore as he was prolific from the late 16th to early 17th Centuries, he was probably more influential than most on the progressive enrichment and changes toward Modern English. In fact being a country boy from Midlands Warwickshire and having to adjust to a London English that was different again' probably allowed him to interlace both idiomatic expressions collected from a rural environment and sharp big city language. Much of England spoke and still does speak in dialects, for example up in North East England, English was and still is a combination of Anglo-Saxon English and Norse Viking words in the mix, it would have been even more pronounced in Shakespeare's heyday.

I have found a number of Translators that will work modern English into Shakespearean English but only the following to translate into Modern English: Download Babylon Translation, a Shakespeare translator software that translates Shakespeare not just into modern English, but multiple languages. However not sure how well it works as I don't need it. Hope this helps Redbeck.

[Nazheek]

Thank you, Redbeck. What about the cryptic nature of his posts?

[Redbeck]

Ah well Nazheek that is a different matter, decoding the hidden message carried within the English, interpreting the diagrams which also bear a message, the way I look at Packajos000's is as an cryptographic-artist, you must decide what his work represents to you. He is besides an artist both a riddler and a puzzler.

In many ways it smacks of the triumph of good over evil, as in taking something that will provoke intense thought which may not in fact yield any tangible conclusion to an individual, but because it makes people think and wrestle with the task - stop - revisit like a dog with a bone - it becomes a long term preoccupation and certainly a mission. They are also, more importantly, applying themselves to something other than negativity: as in material and financial gain, jealousy, hate and violence. In other words they simply cannot ignore the intellectual challenge of trying to divine a meaning no matter how obscure, abstruse, abstract or perplexing.

[Nazheek]

That makes alot more sense to me. I'm going to have to have a closer look at his posts

[Redbeck]

[Redbeck]

Site founder Dave D and myself were in a dialogue recently and finger on the pulse as ever he came up with, ‘Regarding astral travel…’ ‘A beauty in her day,’ I quip! A mere quizzically raised eagle-tufted brow at my delinquent humour and he continued to write,’ I read of Sylvan Muldoon’s work many years ago and happens the following might prove of interest to our friends Nazheek and Klocko along with other Oracle members, All the best Dave D.

WISDOM OF THE EAST

by Hari Prasad Shastri 1948

Page 8

"There is no such word in Sanscrita as 'Creation' applied to the universe. The Sanscrita word for Creation is Shristi, which means 'projection' Creation means to bring something into being out /Page 9/ of nothing, to create, as a novelist creates a character. There was no Miranda, for example, until Shakespeare created her. Similarly the ancient Indians (this term is innacurately used as there was no India at that time). who were our ancestors long, long ago. used a word for creation that means 'projection'

Sylvan Muldoon - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sylvan_Muldoon

Sylvan Muldoon (February 18, 1903 – October 1969) was an American pioneer in the field of astral projection that is described as of an out-of-body experience ...
Projection of the Astral Body by Sylvan Muldoon, Herewood Carrington (ISBN: 9781906621117) available for example from Amazon's Book Store and all leading book stores. ...

The Projection Of The Astral Body : Sylvan Muldoon : Free Download ...
https://archive.org/details/1929Muldoon ... AstralBody
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Hereward Carrington, Sylvan Muldoon. (1929). The Projection of the Astral Body. Rider.

[packajos000]

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[Johnatansoync]

So thats 3 no votes and 1 yes vote. I need to add a vote next time my computer is on

Anyone got an argument to back up their answer?

[oldnoname12]

Could you be more concise with your question?

You've come to the wrong place if your looking for concise answers my man.

Yes, you are correct. Especially with Packajos. I just felt as a user whos been around for a while, albeit inactive, that people would be more willing to answer.

Seriously though, Packajos, how much time do you have? I'm not even trying to be a jerk, its just amazing. Or... Amazein

Don't mind packajos, hes a bit.... touched, i think.

However, there are many brilliant minds here. And though we mostly deal with number theory here most will be pleased to talk philosophy and workings of the inner world.

The dark arts however have never been our "forte" so to speak. But we welcome you with open arms anyway.

[Nazheek]

Dark arts? No, no. I am Christian, Magick is not all dark arts. I dare not to commune with spirits.

[packajos000]

A Lion Shall Devour A Rabbit,
Judge The Rabbit,
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[packajos000]

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