He has long slumbered. Still, he is very young.
He has only just come to realize he dreams.
When his eye opens, his gaze will bring destruction upon all that lays upon.
The beautiful illusion, a grand artwork, may be lost in existence.
And yet...
He has seen past the illusion. He has come to know truth.
He lingers on the path and in doing so becomes restless.
He may stray from it, but does so with out aim.
So he continues to follow the footsteps of the messenger.
I ask you, is the path he walks futile? In following a path few have tread upon, will he ever come to not know loneliness?
Would he not be more at peace among the flock?
The path they follow is one of eternal suffering, still they may take comfort in being in the presence of similar company.
If he may suffer with them, may he not also share the truth that may lead to the path of salvation?
The wisdom and power given to him from his father, spoken to him through the divine love of his mother...
May he not share the inheritance of his royal soul with the beings of the world?
Balance must be restored, and the elements must be brought back into harmony.
There is no escape from destiny. The living will face his divine and pure judgement, and justice will be delivered to all.
He has ordained a great responsibility onto himself, such that will be carried out when he is awakened.
I ask you, may not all life come to know freedom from ignorance?
To bring balance back for themselves? To know love and peace and ensure salvation for themselves?
Must any soul be doomed to the penalties of failing to understand these truths for themselves?
I ask you again.
Do you really want him to awaken from his slumber?
What Reason do you have for waking the Seventh Sleeper?
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Re: What Reason do you have for waking the Seventh Sleeper?
Dear Nekhen,
Welcome to the forum and thank you for your contribution. As-hab al Kahf the companions of the cave at Ephesus, or what is left of it, just five miles inland from the Aegean coast on the western edge of modern day Turkey, at the risk of sounding like a born again travel agent you should visit, given half a chance.
Might I ask if this was penned by your good self or is it quoting from a literary work, either way it is impressive and we would know more about the source, as we learn from one another. Your amplification is much appreciated.
Welcome to the forum and thank you for your contribution. As-hab al Kahf the companions of the cave at Ephesus, or what is left of it, just five miles inland from the Aegean coast on the western edge of modern day Turkey, at the risk of sounding like a born again travel agent you should visit, given half a chance.
Might I ask if this was penned by your good self or is it quoting from a literary work, either way it is impressive and we would know more about the source, as we learn from one another. Your amplification is much appreciated.
Re: What Reason do you have for waking the Seventh Sleeper?
Redbeck,
I thank you for your reply.
I scribed it, but the themes and ideas presented in it were borrowed from the Great Work and The Virgin of the World.
I know of the cave and have seen pictures of the Aegean coast. It is quite beautiful, as are many things in this World. I one day hope to travel and behold all this splendor for myself.
Should the opportunity ever present itself, I will be sure to grasp it.
I thank you for your reply.
I scribed it, but the themes and ideas presented in it were borrowed from the Great Work and The Virgin of the World.
I know of the cave and have seen pictures of the Aegean coast. It is quite beautiful, as are many things in this World. I one day hope to travel and behold all this splendor for myself.
Should the opportunity ever present itself, I will be sure to grasp it.
Re: What Reason do you have for waking the Seventh Sleeper?
I was wondering.... who is the seventh sleeper and what happens if he is awoken? Is the seventh sleeper an actual being or does it represent an idea, event, organization, etc.? 
Re: What Reason do you have for waking the Seventh Sleeper?
The Horus, the Christ. When he is awoken, the seventh seal will be broken, and the Revelation will begin.Cheshire wrote:I was wondering.... who is the seventh sleeper and what happens if he is awoken? Is the seventh sleeper an actual being or does it represent an idea, event, organization, etc.?
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Thanks for the reply.theone wrote:The Horus, the Christ. When he is awoken, the seventh seal will be broken, and the Revelation will begin.Cheshire wrote:I was wondering.... who is the seventh sleeper and what happens if he is awoken? Is the seventh sleeper an actual being or does it represent an idea, event, organization, etc.?
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Re: What Reason do you have for waking the Seventh Sleeper?
Dear Cheshire,
It is a little difficult to tease out the history as to what happened when the seventh sleeper awoke, as far as I can deduce all seven of them revived as one. The original Greek text that the Syrian bishop Jacob of Sarug (c. 450–521) used as a source in order to pass on the story, was apparently lost according to later commentators. The actual beliefs of the men in the cave vary by regional origin, but the story is spread across texts relating to the Christian, Jewish and Muslim faiths, so there appears to be some substance to the legend.
The story of the Seven Sleepers (Arabic version “companions of the cave") of Ephesus surrounds a group of youths who to escape a persecution, hid inside a cave outside the city of Ephesus around 250 AD in modern day Turkey. The Roman Emperor and therefore quasi King of the area in that era forced all his subjects to worship idols in the old way, and whoever refused to do so would be killed. The young men in question escaped and went into hiding as their faith in God (the story exists in various beliefs, see paragraph one) was strong enough for them not to be prepared to worship said idols. In essence this is one of amongst many examples of legends about a man who falls asleep but only awakes years later to find a completely changed world.
In another version of the tale the Roman Emperor in question, Decius, ordered the youths imprisoned in a cave, subsequently closed off, leaving them to die there as punishment for being Christians. Given the rampant brutality prevailing at the time this has some credence, indeed there are a certain contingent of current humankind who have either stepped back to or never left this stage of civilisation! However, the next chapter of this version of the tale is a little more imaginative, therefore the plot probably thins for those of a more scientific bent. For having fallen into a deep sleep inside the cave, supposedly immune to lack of sustenance, water and perhaps even air, they purportedly awoke approximately 180 years later during the reign of Theodosius II, then were reportedly seen by the people of the now-Christian city emerging from the caves before dying of natural causes after a normal life span.
The seven sleeper story is probably most prominent in the Islamic world, in that it is actually told in the Qu’ran (Surah verse 9 – 26). While in this version it does not define the exact number of sleepers, referring to them as "The People of the Cave", it does give the period that they were asleep as 300 solar years (309 lunar years the Muslim calendar employs lunar months). There is also a mention of a dog that entered the cave along with the young men, odd because dogs are traditionally seen as impure creatures in Islam. However, so the story goes, it too fell asleep but elected to slumber at the entrance to the cave and appearing to keep watch, deterred all unwanted intruders. Theoretically its perceived impurity made the cannine an ideal guardian I suppose and dismisses the idea of a cave entrance permanently blocked by a cohort of Roman legiionaries. Also in terms of the foundation-stone thought process behind this site, look at the occurrence of nines verse 9 and 309 lunar years by Jove!
It is a little difficult to tease out the history as to what happened when the seventh sleeper awoke, as far as I can deduce all seven of them revived as one. The original Greek text that the Syrian bishop Jacob of Sarug (c. 450–521) used as a source in order to pass on the story, was apparently lost according to later commentators. The actual beliefs of the men in the cave vary by regional origin, but the story is spread across texts relating to the Christian, Jewish and Muslim faiths, so there appears to be some substance to the legend.
The story of the Seven Sleepers (Arabic version “companions of the cave") of Ephesus surrounds a group of youths who to escape a persecution, hid inside a cave outside the city of Ephesus around 250 AD in modern day Turkey. The Roman Emperor and therefore quasi King of the area in that era forced all his subjects to worship idols in the old way, and whoever refused to do so would be killed. The young men in question escaped and went into hiding as their faith in God (the story exists in various beliefs, see paragraph one) was strong enough for them not to be prepared to worship said idols. In essence this is one of amongst many examples of legends about a man who falls asleep but only awakes years later to find a completely changed world.
In another version of the tale the Roman Emperor in question, Decius, ordered the youths imprisoned in a cave, subsequently closed off, leaving them to die there as punishment for being Christians. Given the rampant brutality prevailing at the time this has some credence, indeed there are a certain contingent of current humankind who have either stepped back to or never left this stage of civilisation! However, the next chapter of this version of the tale is a little more imaginative, therefore the plot probably thins for those of a more scientific bent. For having fallen into a deep sleep inside the cave, supposedly immune to lack of sustenance, water and perhaps even air, they purportedly awoke approximately 180 years later during the reign of Theodosius II, then were reportedly seen by the people of the now-Christian city emerging from the caves before dying of natural causes after a normal life span.
The seven sleeper story is probably most prominent in the Islamic world, in that it is actually told in the Qu’ran (Surah verse 9 – 26). While in this version it does not define the exact number of sleepers, referring to them as "The People of the Cave", it does give the period that they were asleep as 300 solar years (309 lunar years the Muslim calendar employs lunar months). There is also a mention of a dog that entered the cave along with the young men, odd because dogs are traditionally seen as impure creatures in Islam. However, so the story goes, it too fell asleep but elected to slumber at the entrance to the cave and appearing to keep watch, deterred all unwanted intruders. Theoretically its perceived impurity made the cannine an ideal guardian I suppose and dismisses the idea of a cave entrance permanently blocked by a cohort of Roman legiionaries. Also in terms of the foundation-stone thought process behind this site, look at the occurrence of nines verse 9 and 309 lunar years by Jove!
Re: What Reason do you have for waking the Seventh Sleeper?
Man, that picture gave me chills
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